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Why do atheists care about religion?
Posted by: imrational

Video duration: 300 seconds

The main music in the video is "Funky Like Humans" by Odd One Out. Song used with permission. The intro music was created by Imrational.

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Atheists like to ...
By: Sorastor. on 23 Nov 08, 04:28:27
Atheists like to bully Christians? Two words: Bill O'Reilly.

Islam would say the ...
By: Sorastor. on 23 Nov 08, 04:26:07
Islam would say the same thing, but how can we know which path to follow? Both contend to be the one and only way.

You really do need ...
By: Sorastor. on 23 Nov 08, 04:25:17
You really do need to read up about evolution before you go making such outrageous and blatantly false claims.

It's not about ...
By: playboyoft. on 23 Nov 08, 03:57:51
It's not about being less intelligent than Yahweh(God). If that were the case,everyone would be damned to hell,it's about ignoring the knowledge that he has given you,and chosing to ignore your creator and reject divine wisdom and knowledge from the Bible. Athiest alot,like to bully Christians,because they think,Christians have to take abuse and not defend themselves .

There are alot of ...
By: playboyoft. on 23 Nov 08, 03:52:16
There are alot of Christian philosophers to ,you have Christian philosophy ,Jewish philosophy,and Islamic philosphy. Philosophy discusses truth? You're absolutely right, Christian philosophy does discuss truth . If you passed away and were walking to God's throne and saw God and Yeshua(Jesus) sitting there waiting to judge you,knowing the life that you lived here on earth,you would be scared to death, why take that chance?.

Nobagav you're ...
By: playboyoft. on 23 Nov 08, 03:48:05
Nobagav you're cruel for ignoring your creator,and not even giving recognition to someone that has gave you so much(God). There is some evidence for most of Science,but since alot has not been proved,that means you're an agnostic about certain aspects of Evolution, and alot of Evolution is a stastical probability?.

"Atheists prosecute ...
By: nobagav. on 23 Nov 08, 01:14:49
"Atheists prosecute those who live Godly in Christ" Ridiculous. You might as well go on to suggest that the Jews were persecuting the Germans in the 1930s.

"avoiding me by not ...
By: nobagav. on 23 Nov 08, 01:09:38
"avoiding me by not clicking 'reply' to any of my comments." He's been playing that game with me too... between that and not quoting it is almost impossible to know what he's talking about or who he's talking at.

"Physics on the ...
By: nobagav. on 23 Nov 08, 01:07:16
"Physics on the other hand must rely on truth." You are upside down. Physics relies on observations and predictions, and like all sciences, is in an eternal state of 'best guess' and statistical probability. Philosophy discusses truth, tries to understand it and to figure out if it exists... to most other disciplines this question is moot. They just do the best they can with what is available.

Manichaean paranoia ...
By: Sorastor. on 23 Nov 08, 00:01:24
Manichaean paranoia. I'd look it up if I were you.

The Bible actually ...
By: MICHAELMEM. on 22 Nov 08, 23:50:09
The Bible actually gives us a hint about why atheists care about religion. I think the following is not an exact quotation, but the idea is still true: "All people who will live Godly (in Christ Jesus) WILL also be persecuted." Atheists prosecute those who live Godly in Christ; and I doubt atheists would prosecute so much if they did not really care about religion.

Quoting the Bible ...
By: Sorastor. on 22 Nov 08, 23:48:11
Quoting the Bible to prove the Bible's truth to us is not going to get you very far.

Wrong, wrong, and ...
By: Sorastor. on 22 Nov 08, 23:47:20
Wrong, wrong, and again, wrong. You are confusing truth and fact YET AGAIN. This conversation is NOT PROGRESSING and it won't progress until you acknowledge the difference between the two.

You are using ...
By: believer777believer. on 22 Nov 08, 22:52:38
You are using dietary law, that has nothing at all to do with moral law. God also said in Acts 10:15 And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common. So, anything blessed by God is not considered unclean. Gods moral law is located in Exodus 20.

I lost track of ...
By: believer777believer. on 22 Nov 08, 22:43:50
I lost track of where your comments were. I suppose you've never had that problem? This vid has an extesive amount of commenrs to sift through. I was never on any hook yo begin with. I am free, completely.

Fact is determined ...
By: believer777believer. on 22 Nov 08, 22:42:00
Fact is determined by truth. It cannot be fact without absolute truth. They are not mutally inclusive. If truth is relative,then facts must be relative also. Which we know not to be true. I only used physics to illustrate that truth is not relative,that it must be an absolute constant,in order for anything to exist as it does. Philosophy says all truth is relative. That is clearly ridiculous! Maybe the philosophers,should have taken some physics classes.

Learn the ...
By: Sorastor. on 22 Nov 08, 21:42:43
Learn the difference between truth and fact. Why do you think courts demand the truth, but not fact from witnesses? Because witnesses can only honestly give their perception of events, be they accurate or inaccurate. Physics determine FACT, not 'truth'. It is a fact that the Earth revolves around the Sun. It is a RELATIVE 'truth' that shellfish is an 'abomination' according to Leviticus 11:10.

Oh, and nice try at ...
By: Sorastor. on 22 Nov 08, 21:39:48
Oh, and nice try at avoiding me by not clicking 'reply' to any of my comments. But just because I don't get notified of your response doesn't mean you're off the hook.

Morals are neither ...
By: Sorastor. on 22 Nov 08, 21:38:45
Morals are neither definite nor absolute, and you have no base to say that this is my supposition alone. 'Physics' do not demonstrate that moral or ethical absolutes must exist, but simply show that physical, testable, objective absolute FACT does exist. FACT is absolute; truth is relative, as even a court of law would tell you. There is a distinction between the two. The fact: I exist. The truth to you: I am a heretic. The truth to me: I'm awesome (which could be fact, also).

Soraster actual ...
By: believer777believer. on 22 Nov 08, 05:12:52
Soraster actual morals are not abstact. They are definite, and absolute. The idea that morals are abstract is your presupposition. I use physics to demonstartae that absolutes must exist, and since they do exist, so does absolute truth. Philosophy can't deal with absolutes, because they would mean some people are absolutely right, while others are absolutely wrong. By stating that truth is relative, you can say everything is to be considered, but nothing is decided.

nobagav Philosophy ...
By: believer777believer. on 22 Nov 08, 05:07:08
nobagav Philosophy is not about truth. It is about the ideas of men. It is speculation, conjecture, and ideas. There is no real truth, because of the idea of relative truth. Physics on the other hand must rely on truth. Physics wouldn't make sense without truth. Philosophy doesn't need actual truth, it just requires the listener to agree, or at least discuss why they disagree. Your understanding of philosophy is just a topical one.

And Christ comes ...
By: Sorastor. on 22 Nov 08, 04:22:29
And Christ comes from Dionysus, the pagan god of wine, which is why his blood was equated with wine. Which is why he calmed a storm. The Dionysian mystery cults felt you could absolve yourself of mortality and attain divinity through Dionysus. Does this sound familiar? And as for foretelling events, I don't think you have any room to talk on prophecy.

Allah is from the ...
By: believer777believer. on 22 Nov 08, 04:20:33
Allah is from the pagan moon god. That is why muslims adorn everything with the cresent moon. Just because they call Allah god, doesn't mean it's the same as in Judaism. Mohammad was a morrauder, and a thief. He was not a prophet. He never foretold a single event. Allah is actually the 3rd god Mohammad chose. He must not have liked the other 2, so he settled with Allah.

But, what if ...
By: Sorastor. on 22 Nov 08, 04:20:20
But, what if someone tells me my car runs because little dwarves on the inside operate it?

Thunderf00t and ...
By: Sorastor. on 22 Nov 08, 04:17:51
Thunderf00t and AronRa. Check their videos out.

$Atheist on the Bible, Part 1: Original Sin & God\$

Atheist on the Bible, Part 1: Original Sin & God's Plan
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Video duration: 307 seconds

An atheist reads the bible, but there's a few things he still doesn't quite understand. The bible from a skeptical point of view. This is the first episode of a series and deals with the core Christian belief of original sin and the idea that Jesus died for our sins.

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ck out the utube ...
By: thedayathand. on 16 Nov 08, 05:07:30
ck out the utube video below... DO ALL PATHS LEAD TO GOD? 3/6 You calling me a sinner?

lol :D
By: sputnikowns. on 15 Nov 08, 22:40:41
lol :D

lol good old Carlin ...
By: quietAtheist20. on 14 Nov 08, 09:33:01
lol good old Carlin........ he knows what happens when we die!!! he was coming to my city a few month before he died. i would have tried to believe in god to see him lol!!!!

Great video.
By: 8lak. on 05 Nov 08, 23:57:00
Great video.

Chickens are decent ...
By: sputnikowns. on 03 Nov 08, 23:48:19
Chickens are decent people too, you know!

Good stuff. If a ...
By: eonuk. on 31 Oct 08, 21:17:20
Good stuff. If a believer says that science believes the universe was created from nothing this is incorrect. Entrophy - energy cannot be created or destroyed. Big bang theory... the big bang was created from a very dense and high temperature matter. We can only extrapolate back that this was a singularity and the general theory of relatively broke down. That shuts them up!

Or it can make calm ...
By: OhAnnaVapours. on 30 Oct 08, 18:41:28
Or it can make calm people crazy and kill. Which it has done. Big time.

It takes religion ...
By: zecnobot. on 26 Oct 08, 08:41:31
It takes religion to make decent people to do bad things.

boxeirish, That ...
By: imrational. on 15 Oct 08, 04:02:44
boxeirish, That doesn't make any sense. If god gave us freewill and wants us to love him, then he should fully reveal himself like he did to Adam and Eve. We can't make educated choices without evidence. As to prophecies, many religions claim to have fulfilled prophecies. According to LDS, Joe Smith predicted the American Civil War very accurately. The prophecies in the bible can apply to a ton of things. Book of Rev. was written about Rome during the 1st century.

god wants us to ...
By: boxerirish. on 14 Oct 08, 22:21:47
god wants us to choose to love him thats why he gave us free will to decide what we want to do in life . aniway how can u explain the prophecies that have come true over the years. just no that the end is near init . jesus will come down from heaven in a humen body form and you will see him for yourself and then you will know that their is a god . aniway have a good life im not a priest i dont want to be neither. no offence lol

I think we are ...
By: EDunbarS. on 14 Oct 08, 21:56:43
I think we are missing the fact that Life was harsh back thern. People lived to an age expectancy of what....30 at best? Children died all the time with no health care. Unchecked infections would eat away at people. Even a common cold could kill you. So when a belief system came along that helped explain why the Universe was unfair, it gave people the illusion of controlling their fate (ie give your life to God and you will thrive). Of course it caught on real fast.

The tree of ...
By: EDunbarS. on 14 Oct 08, 21:49:55
The tree of knowledge..why even put that tree on earth?Why give his creation the chance to fail?I have a 6 year old, and I am not going to put drugs in my house and give access to it for my son.Then tell him that he must not touch the drugs.If he touches the drugs I will throw him out of the house and he can find his own way in the world..but isn't this basically what the Bible tells us God did with the Tree of Knowledge? If God is omniscient and omnipotent....then why not just defeat Satan?

there is no god ...
By: hailsatann. on 10 Oct 08, 01:25:35
there is no god just in the mind to make crazy people be calm and not kill

Rufus: I think it's ...
By: duckyjess. on 02 Oct 08, 21:34:07
Rufus: I think it's better to have ideas. You can change an idea. Changing a belief is trickier. Life should malleable and progressive; working from idea to idea permits that. Beliefs anchor you to certain points and limit growth; new ideas can't generate. Life becomes stagnant.

I think Dogma ...
By: duckyjess. on 02 Oct 08, 21:33:58
I think Dogma really did it best you know. Rufus: He still digs humanity, but it bothers Him to see the shit that gets carried out in His name - wars, bigotry, televangelism. But especially the factioning of all the religions. He said humanity took a good idea and, like always, built a belief structure on it. Bethany: Having beliefs isn't good?

When I was 9 my ...
By: duckyjess. on 02 Oct 08, 21:33:27
When I was 9 my scripture teacher yelled at me in front of the whole class that I was going to hell, that god didn't love me and that I was dirty. This was in a public school. She found out I wasn't baptized (my parents couldn't afford it when I was born). She really did ruin the idea of religion for me. My parents went into the school and had her kicked out :) My point is, I really do like the **idea** of religion, but there are people who ruin it, people who I think interpret it poorly.

it was (supposedly) ...
By: imrational. on 30 Sep 08, 03:40:36
it was (supposedly) all part of god's plan. I mean, the god of the OT who made it a death penalty for saying his name out loud, and then sent his son to earth saying that he was god's son. Any loyal follower of the OT would be required to kill Jesus. NOt to mention that christian concept that Jesus was supposed to die for our sins. We're talking about human sacrifice for forgiveness. Pretty demented if you ask me.

dident people ...
By: boxerirish. on 29 Sep 08, 19:36:35
dident people decide to kill him .

boxerirish, God ...
By: imrational. on 29 Sep 08, 04:16:43
boxerirish, God wanted to show us that he loved us... so he purposefully planned (at the creation of the universe) to have us torture and kill him. This makes sense how?!?

ur missing the ...
By: boxerirish. on 29 Sep 08, 02:40:59
ur missing the point that jesus is god in humen flesh and that he wanted to show us hhow much he loved us by dying 4 us if u cacth my drift and by ressurecting 3 days after . y would the church blow up so quick if people back in jesus times dident beleve that this truly did happen .

To much bla bla bla ...
By: ChaosAngel667. on 28 Sep 08, 04:44:36
To much bla bla bla, but you didnt say anything about sin. What is sin what is not, is a sin to use science to explain the universe even when that contradicts bible? Jejeje

Original sin is a ...
By: Dacadvid. on 20 Sep 08, 16:46:49
Original sin is a disease. Actual sin is the symptoms. Original sin is the ability to sin. Actual sin the usage of said ability. Original sin is a taint on mankind. Actual sin is a choice, pure and simple.

at least ISLAM AND ...
By: hokutonosword1. on 19 Sep 08, 23:09:01
at least ISLAM AND JUDAISM believing that Adam sinned and got punished from god ....but they don't believe all humanity is sinned because of Adam ,WHY? It Makes Sin To Be A Misfortune And Not A Crime It Gives The Sinner An Excuse For His Sins It Makes The Sinner Deserve Pity And Compassion It Makes God Responsible For Sin It Makes God Unreasonable, Cruel, And Unjust It Causes Ministers And Church Members To Wink At Sin in other words: IT'S A BIG FAT LIE & IT'S BULLSHIT other religions R BETTER

OVER ONE HUNDRED ...
By: hokutonosword1. on 19 Sep 08, 22:57:42
OVER ONE HUNDRED TEXTS FROM THE BIBLE shows ORIGINAL SIN IS UNBIBLICAL AND FALSE if u ask me...Adam have sined...god punished him...end of story..that's it...if my father killed someone....why should I get punished for? ...there is nothing in the bible in both testaments that called ORIGINAL SIN and I dare any christian to show me from the bible that Jesus came for the original sin No Man Can Be Guilty For A Sin He Did Not Commit original sin It Makes God Unreasonable, Cruel, And Unjust.

"What seems right ...
By: imrational. on 19 Sep 08, 03:32:44
"What seems right to man is not what is right"?!? So, after eating the fruit of good & evil, we still don't have any clue what is good or bad?

Religulous Movie Review
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Video duration: 263 seconds

I've seen the new Bill Maher movie, Religulous, due to open October 3rd in select theaters. Here's my review
If you want to read my movie reviews...
http://www.imdb.c om/user/ur18082743/c omments

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when does it come ...
By: arbknight12. on 22 Nov 08, 17:34:33
when does it come on DVD?

I liked both
By: UberCOD4fan666. on 22 Nov 08, 03:06:59
I liked both

you said it
By: UberCOD4fan666. on 22 Nov 08, 03:05:34
you said it

No, its a lousy ...
By: henrikhhhhh. on 19 Nov 08, 19:45:17
No, its a lousy movie.

not necessarily. It ...
By: mboromboroone. on 19 Nov 08, 12:20:40
not necessarily. It depends how it is used. I have a grandma that passed away in her late 80's, and was very religious and smoked. Religion if practiced rationally, is psychologically therapeutic if you deffer your worries and limitations to a more supreme force. I gave yo comment a "+" actually as I see why you feel that way.

Ben Stein's ...
By: swayingabyss. on 18 Nov 08, 07:48:18
Ben Stein's documentary "Expelled," is a great movie, and really if you want to hear another side of the arguement you should definitely watch it.

watched it ...
By: astr0tugi. on 14 Nov 08, 00:16:59
watched it yesterday. Was really awesome!

zeitgeist is full ...
By: cschin11. on 13 Nov 08, 00:43:20
zeitgeist is full of shit

But...there IS a ...
By: tylerMusicMan. on 09 Nov 08, 23:31:47
But...there IS a message. That religion is irrational, and dangerous to our society.

Your very wrong, I ...
By: WhiteSage777. on 07 Nov 08, 03:04:57
Your very wrong, I am not religious and this movei was a waste of time and effort, he has no message to convey and after groundbreaking films like zeitgesit 1 and 2, this is a piece of dog shit on my shoe.

Zeitgiest is full ...
By: WhiteSage777. on 07 Nov 08, 03:03:15
Zeitgiest is full of fascinating information, This movie was so horrible I asked for my money back, hwere or what exactly is his message, there isn't any, this movie sucked royal ass

i enjoyed zeitgeist ...
By: ANGELCRUSHerxx. on 06 Nov 08, 22:40:27
i enjoyed zeitgeist, but it puts people to sleep. Religulous however will keep people awake and entertained.

dead on review
By: stevethelobster18. on 06 Nov 08, 19:30:52
dead on review

I'm agnostic and I ...
By: Transformergirl. on 04 Nov 08, 00:43:46
I'm agnostic and I loved it. ESP the old preist he talked to near the vatican and the guy at the planetarium.

The worst, most ...
By: WhiteSage777. on 03 Nov 08, 19:56:36
The worst, most boring fucking movie ever. Watch ZEITGEIST

religulous is a ...
By: fcblackbridge. on 02 Nov 08, 22:31:55
religulous is a great movie

anyone know where i ...
By: ps3thug. on 02 Nov 08, 13:32:27
anyone know where i can watch the movie? or download it

Only see toher ...
By: jerryaltman. on 31 Oct 08, 22:58:06
Only see toher people's ass, anf forgot to look to their own ass. Ok, I understand people's mentality.

indyleftist, ...
By: imrational. on 31 Oct 08, 20:39:42
indyleftist, Considering that atheists had a movie shown nationwide is pretty impressive. I agree that it could have been more educational, but then the movie probably wouldn't have appealed to a wider audience. Also, from my understanding, the eastern religions are the ones dying the fastest. India is passing laws to try and stop christians and muslims from converting Hindus to their religions. Maybe Maher didn't think that he needed to cover them?

jerraltman, I ...
By: imrational. on 31 Oct 08, 20:37:06
jerraltman, I disagree, I think people will look at the other religions and find things to laugh about.

I was actually ...
By: indyleftist. on 31 Oct 08, 06:06:47
I was actually pretty disappointed with the movie I wanted it to teach more And I wish he would have been less abrasive when confronting people. The beauty of arguing religion is that just by asking simple questions you can force people into corners very easily and they will either have to say "no I don't believe that part" or "No that's not very moral" Also I wanted to see what the Rabbi who went to Iran said, Maher cut him off and walked out. Also didn't cover the eastern religions

The problem is that ...
By: jerryaltman. on 30 Oct 08, 22:37:33
The problem is that this film will only be understandable by atheists. Religious people will mostly close the eyes, close the mouth and clasoe the ears, as always had done to rationality.

what I want to see ...
By: danceTOpopcorn. on 29 Oct 08, 00:16:24
what I want to see is that adam and eve animation that is shown in the movie. lol. like disney

best. movie. ever.
By: nellojello2010. on 28 Oct 08, 03:44:53
best. movie. ever.

I wish I could get ...
By: DredgLord. on 28 Oct 08, 03:06:34
I wish I could get my grandparents to see this movie. They would crap themselves. Great movie.

Atheist on the Bible Part 2: Moses
Posted by: imrational

Video duration: 599 seconds

An atheist reads the bible, but still doesn't quite understand a few things. A skeptical view of parts of the bible. This installment concerns parts of Moses life.

Related: atheism, atheist, bible, christian, egypt, freethought, fundie, hell, moses, plagues, rational, skeptic, skepticism

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blah diddy blah ...
By: freakandfrak. on 13 Oct 08, 01:20:37
blah diddy blah blah blah

And the Quaran.and ...
By: blackstormelf. on 22 Sep 08, 03:26:33
And the Quaran.and book of Mormon!!

I swear the Bible ...
By: dragoonthief. on 14 Sep 08, 23:40:37
I swear the Bible is plagarized.

Very nice. I liked ...
By: 10secstomeltdown. on 29 Aug 08, 19:12:02
Very nice. I liked the music in the background. :)

aw thanks! :)
By: imrational. on 23 Aug 08, 10:29:28
aw thanks! :)

Awesome summary. ...
By: ctfchris. on 23 Aug 08, 05:28:35
Awesome summary. You cover a lot of points I'd thought of and got me thinking about a few I hadn't. Excellent video.

Prohoridzo, There ...
By: imrational. on 07 Aug 08, 18:01:00
Prohoridzo, There is no record of the Isrealites exodus from Egypt so how can you say that Egypt fell at the same time? That was why I was saying you had your facts wrong

Prohoridzo, The ...
By: imrational. on 07 Aug 08, 17:58:44
Prohoridzo, The wheel refutation was not in regards to you... just pointing out "evidence" of the exodus that proved to be blatantly false... so I was not trying to insult you there. Apologies for how it sounded. As to me being "rational". You should watch my "why I'm imrational". I do not say that I am rational... my name is more for me to remember that I strive to be rational.

imrational, Your ...
By: Prohoridzo. on 06 Aug 08, 23:53:08
imrational, Your the self proclaimed rational one. Why don't you present the source of your facts? I know for a fact that Babylons beat the shit our of Egypt way before the Persians did. I site my references AFTER you prove yours. You made the claims first, back it up or shut it up or continue to be irrational.

imrational,please ...
By: Prohoridzo. on 06 Aug 08, 21:33:52
imrational,please dont put words in my mouth or accuse me of making claims I did'nt make-that's highly irrational of you. The facts are:Egypt was never the dominant power it once was after the Exodus. Besides, Babylon, under Nebuchadnezzer kicked the shit out of Egypt many times before the Persians. You not only don't make any rational sense in that you are only making fun of your own irrational interpretation, you also irrationally interpret history any way you want to too.

Prohoridzo, Did ...
By: imrational. on 06 Aug 08, 20:58:29
Prohoridzo, Did you read about the refutation of the Egyptian chariot wheel that was supposedly found? Wow, talk about giving false evidence! It's a shame that so many Apologists are willing to lie about supporting evidence in order to support their belief structure.

Prohoridzo, What ...
By: imrational. on 06 Aug 08, 20:51:06
Prohoridzo, What are you talking about?!? Egypt didn't fall after the Exodus, where do you get your facts?!? Egypt was first conquered by the Persians, and then by Alexander the Great. No reference to the Isrealites at all.

The greatest ...
By: Prohoridzo. on 06 Aug 08, 11:36:38
The greatest evidence of the exodus is the fall of the Egyptian empire at the same time. Maybe you should do some rational research rather than irrationally supposing what is or what is not recorded in history just because you feel like saying what ever you want about it. Perhaps, the many other historical facts recorded so accurately in the Bible like the rise and fall of the Assyrian,Babylonian,Persian and Greek dynasties over a period of the 1400 years might just change your mind.Read it 1st.

Gee psych,your lack ...
By: Prohoridzo. on 06 Aug 08, 11:28:56
Gee psych,your lack of faith in a creator is one thing,but your lack of ability to write a coherent statement or question behooves me to wonder if you actually know what you are trying to say,or,just have some sort of religious faith in hoping people are supposed to understand your incompetence in expressing a tangible thought or form a logical question. I guess that would mean you would have to be able to read first.And since you only 'heard' things from the Bible,maybe you should READ it first

haha.. yeah i've ...
By: psychelingus. on 06 Aug 08, 10:51:57
haha.. yeah i've never heard any stories from the bible where god uses force, or any stories from history where "his chosen people" the christians used force. if your religion is so superior and holds the monopoly of wisdom, why do all you religious nuts feel the need to watch athiest videos and leave comments as such? cognitive dissonnance, maybe? if you really are a christian, you'll forgive dude for the video. as will your sky daddy. if it all is real, have fun up there with hitler.

I would say that ...
By: imrational. on 26 Jul 08, 02:51:15
I would say that the taking of an unwilling life is murder or killing. However, let me reiterate. The creator of the entire universe... who created the galaxies, planets, countless suns, chose Moses, a man who took the life of an unwilling person as his personal emissary and instead of answering to the existing government and laws, he fled the crime scene and the country.

Perhaps the best ...
By: Prohoridzo. on 26 Jul 08, 01:08:08
Perhaps the best thing for imrational to observe is someone who rationally interprets the scripture rather that continuing to listen to a hell bound free willy arminian whose doctrine is the basis for this videos rant. If 'imrational' knew reformed theology, he never would have made this video. It's your garbage Roman theology he is rightfully attacking and the way you distort the meaning of the Bible. You should be ashamed of yourself and repent from you cliches chicanery and witchcraft.

Said the ...
By: thepan777. on 26 Jul 08, 00:10:21
Said the Hyper-Calvinist!!!! You are a robot, is that what you are saying? Knowing the end from the beginning, is not the same as forcing a conclusion. JOSHUA 24:15 Choose you this day whom you will serve.....You see we can go back and forth with this all day. The point to imrational ,my new buddy is that God exists. If you want to live in a misconception, then God forced you into a relationship. He chose Ezekiel as His prophet, He chose the 12 (which He is addressing) in John 15 IITim 3:7

imrational,Do the ...
By: Prohoridzo. on 25 Jul 08, 23:10:50
imrational,Do the words have to be in the Bible to describe what happened?That's not rational.You're accusing Moses of murder when he was defending the slave. Wow, I can't believe you've answered this way. You've got me worried. Capital punishment for murder was instituted way before Moses. First, Cain and Able (Gen.4). Then the first law God gave Noah after the flood. Genesis9:5,6 Also, the word for kill means murder. It doesn't mean you can't defend yourself or someone else. Are you alright?

the idea of ...
By: imrational. on 25 Jul 08, 22:26:24
the idea of manslaughter is based on our laws, not necessarily the Egyptians or the bible. After all the commandment "shall not kill" is pretty clear cut, and I don't see anything in the bible using the words "involuntary manslaughter". Now, you could say that killing wasn't wrong prior to Moses bringing the commandments down, but then that also means that god's morality changed.

Yeah, but for a ...
By: imrational. on 25 Jul 08, 22:20:43
Yeah, but for a period, they were overrun with frogs. I think we can agree that the frogleg market would have been extremely volatile during that time period and would give some evidence. :)

Thepan, you can't ...
By: Prohoridzo. on 25 Jul 08, 19:07:55
Thepan, you can't earn a relationship with God. He chooses whom He wills, ya know,the ones he chose before the foundation of the earth. Those whom He loves, he chastens (forces) and scourges every son whom He receives. Eze 36:27 And I will put my Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes and be careful to obey my rules. God does 'force' those whom He loves. John 15;16, You did not chose me, but I have chosen you.

Mat5:21 "You have ...
By: Prohoridzo. on 25 Jul 08, 19:03:27
Mat5:21 "You have heard that it was said to those of old,'You shall not murder; and whoever murders will be liable to judgment.' But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council;and whoever says,'You fool!' will be liable to the hell of fire. This is what I was referring to. Moses was defending the slave and in so doing killed the egyptian. That's not murder, nor racism, it's invol. manslaughter.

Oh, I don't know ...
By: Prohoridzo. on 25 Jul 08, 18:54:15
Oh, I don't know about that imrational, The supply side being diminished would have caused an increase in the price.

Moses was not just ...
By: imrational. on 25 Jul 08, 13:57:32
Moses was not just "defending a slave". He MURDERED a man. "We're all murderers if we hate without cause"? Sorry, I didn't understand that. Are you saying that a person who is rascist but doesn't do anything about it, is the same as someone who murders another? The idea of "free will" is not in the bible, you're correct. The concept is presented by apologists trying to cover some of the massive holes in the bible's logic.

Dawkins Stumped?!? Let me answer!
Posted by: imrational

Video duration: 137 seconds

This video is in response to now infamous video of Richard Dawkins pausing during an interview.
Here is Dawkin's reply to the video
http://www.skepti cs.com.au/articles/d awkins.htm

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Actually the answer ...
By: Forlo12345. on 23 Nov 08, 09:13:10
Actually the answer he gave is sufficient. "Give an example of a mutation that increases the AMOUNT OF INFORMATION IN THE GENOME." One mutation is known as nondisjunction (which this guy JUST explained how it works) and it gives rise to an extra copy of the 21st chromosome in Down Syndrome (in other words an INCREASE in genetic information). Haven't you ever taken a biology class?

Perfect! You used ...
By: Forlo12345. on 23 Nov 08, 09:08:34
Perfect! You used nondisjunction as an example. I wouldn't have thought of that. Good job!

yeah, but i ...
By: macernek. on 23 Nov 08, 07:16:23
yeah, but i guarantee that a person with down's syndrome wouldn't make the cut when it comes to natural selection, so the trait wouldn't be passed on since it isn't beneficial in any way

OMG! Evolution ...
By: wildcimmerian. on 23 Nov 08, 06:03:47
OMG! Evolution gives you Down's syndrome, OH NOES!! loloolohaxxors

??????????????????? ...
By: procommenter. on 23 Nov 08, 03:06:07
?????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????

evolution does have ...
By: methemopper. on 23 Nov 08, 02:44:45
evolution does have an abundance of problems: a great deal of living fossils the 2002 hominid discovery no missing links a great deal of assumptions and generalizations.(no hard science)

So you saying that ...
By: 8BitPerception. on 22 Nov 08, 22:56:53
So you saying that evolution is not true means that I can say that god doesn't exist. You cant prove the he/she/it does. Its all based on belief and opinions.

the stumped Richard ...
By: jamesreasin. on 22 Nov 08, 20:09:22
the stumped Richard Dawkins provided a better answer that evaded answering the question asked. The simple answer is: NO .. He can't and neither can you because evolution is a theory and is not true.

man,i have so much ...
By: methemopper. on 22 Nov 08, 02:17:09
man,i have so much trouble commenting on these youtube pages.What's the secret?

gamete (GAM-eet). ...
By: voted4bush. on 22 Nov 08, 01:27:37
gamete (GAM-eet). Also, this isn't new information, and it is too bad that Down's Syndrome people (trisomy 21) are sterile and wouldn't be the fittest in a situation to promote evolution even if they could. Not a true answer. At least you tried though, that's admirable.

to be more specific ...
By: dressed1nflame. on 21 Nov 08, 20:25:00
to be more specific, there must be NEW information, as in not DUPLICATION of existing information, which is mutation by definition. this guy is only explaining mutation

I would have used ...
By: Workaholic313. on 21 Nov 08, 15:44:27
I would have used polydactyly but the Creationist doesn't state whether or not it's beneficial. Added information can be detrimental, repetitive, or beneficial. I just don't think we know enough about the human genome to answer a question in the way a Creationist would want it to be. I want to know what their answer would be - if they bothered to try and answer their own question.

Trisomy 21 is not a ...
By: ReinWadlin. on 21 Nov 08, 09:59:12
Trisomy 21 is not a good example of more information in the genome as it is purely detrimental. You're setting yourself up for the follow-up question concerning BENEFICIAL increases in information.

Well his pause I ...
By: Xenogalatica. on 21 Nov 08, 06:52:21
Well his pause I understood. Right when he's like "turn the camera off" he sounded like he's about to let the woman have it. that the question she asked had many complex answers to it.

"...the question ...
By: NoGodsB4Man. on 21 Nov 08, 05:30:13
"...the question did sound like a trap of some sort..." See that 2nd vid response up there (53 seconds, posted by FelixCulpa)? Check that one out; says everything that needs to be said.

hey Imrational, I ...
By: Xenogalatica. on 21 Nov 08, 02:32:40
hey Imrational, I watched the video you were responding to and I felt it was a little bit of a conundrum however your explanation opened my eyes to what they were talking about. I'm not much of a biogist so I can't say if you're right or not but, the question did sound like a trap of some sort, not just a conundrum.

are you a biologist?
By: kotarak. on 20 Nov 08, 15:25:38
are you a biologist?

manhattanwombat has ...
By: imrational. on 20 Nov 08, 14:53:50
manhattanwombat has been temporarily blocked. I'm pretty open about allowing free comments. What is not allowed is blatant spam, revealing personal information about others, or threats of violence. To those that think the anonymity of the internet makes such threats invalid, I know of cases which violence has occurred.

im gonna gut u like ...
By: manhattanwombat. on 20 Nov 08, 06:19:07
im gonna gut u like a pig motherfucker

"That would be a ...
By: NoGodsB4Man. on 20 Nov 08, 05:34:13
"That would be a very large stretch." I didn't want to hurt the kid's head, just point him in a more rational direction.

NoGodsB4Man, I ...
By: imrational. on 20 Nov 08, 05:19:26
NoGodsB4Man, I wouldn't say that Einstein or Hawking has "faith" in their religious views. That would be a very large stretch.

Someone stopping to ...
By: thedude3092. on 20 Nov 08, 03:51:23
Someone stopping to think for a second is somehow proof of god. This shows exactly how stupid creationism actually is.

NoGodsB4Man your ...
By: postprodigal. on 20 Nov 08, 02:04:42
NoGodsB4Man your username does offer many assumptions maybe not creationist

absolutely.I'm glad ...
By: postprodigal. on 20 Nov 08, 01:54:55
absolutely.I'm glad you said that.You sound like a creationist

"and until proven ...
By: NoGodsB4Man. on 20 Nov 08, 01:39:28
"and until proven that He doesn't exist, i will keep my faith..." Fair enough. "but this is running on quite a bit longer than expected, and i have school work to do." Final note (yeah, right...): Keep hitting those books, especially math and science. And remember, many of the worlds leading scientists (such as Ken Miller and Francis Collins) are Christians, and others are Pantheists (like Albert Einstein and Stephen Hawkings). Faith doesn't require a rejection of science. Peace. :)

The Winner of the FSM vs IPU Video Contest!
Posted by: imrational

Video duration: 491 seconds

Well, after procrastinating for several months... I'm finally ready to announce the winner of the Flying Spaghetti Monster versus the Invisible Pink Unicorn Video Contest!! The Spaghettios are ready to be awarded!
Playlist of all the FSM vs IPU videos
http://www.youtub e.com/view_play_list ?p=D975BE44F77D4E5C

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Lol, that's funny. ...
By: Paomnnehal. on 20 Oct 08, 18:20:53
Lol, that's funny. I didn't know about any of this until now ._.

Woah, i didn't know ...
By: xinjinbei. on 09 Sep 08, 17:31:09
Woah, i didn't know this video was ever made until now.

Well, I'm ...
By: imrational. on 22 Jul 08, 07:30:47
Well, I'm embarrassed to say that I still need to mail out the spaghettios :( I don't feel right offering another test until I mail out the cans of pasta from the last one. The problem is, the addresses are totally buried in my PM messages and I have several thousand of those.

Have you thought ...
By: olivetreewoman. on 22 Jul 08, 06:39:05
Have you thought about doing a 2008 competion? You could throw in Russell's tea pot for fun. Ramen...

RAmen
By: ChainbladeVideos. on 12 Jul 08, 06:33:06
RAmen

Spaghettio's? ...
By: imrational. on 03 Mar 08, 01:44:33
Spaghettio's? You're knocking Spaghettio's?!? Don't make me ban you! What happened to you that you lost all sense of taste? You think that the glorious pasta and meat product that is Spaghettio's isn't any good? I suppose you like that Chef-Boyardee character. You know he's a fascist right?

But alas, the ...
By: Serdones. on 02 Mar 08, 12:48:34
But alas, the Pissing Storm Cloud of Justice states that the Flying Spaggheti Monster is not but a myth, and therefore all should grovel at the feet--do clouds have feet?--of the one true almighty. And He also states that there is only one true word. And that word is "Monster", for it is the name of the best energy drink, ever. And it is because of His constant intake of that very energy drink, that He perpetually pisses. Fear the Pissing Storm Cloud of Justice!

ramen to all the ...
By: prsshred39. on 29 Feb 08, 03:00:55
ramen to all the fsm shall smile upon the believers of the one true word ramen

Can of spahgettios ...
By: AAAAAAAAAA42. on 29 Feb 08, 00:44:07
Can of spahgettios with meatballs?! Epic fail. Besides,the hard work put into it,they deserve a better award. I mean...SPAGHETIOS?!

Hey, someone needs ...
By: CommonOddity. on 25 Feb 08, 03:35:43
Hey, someone needs to create a version with Eris involved, the Discordian goddess. Eris Vs IPU VS FSM. Eris needs some love, too!

Invisible Pink ...
By: xZakLix. on 20 Jan 08, 18:11:02
Invisible Pink Unicorn (BBHHH) FTW!

RAmen
By: mortemdei. on 27 Dec 07, 19:34:26
RAmen

Looks like my next ...
By: weare182. on 20 Dec 07, 02:10:27
Looks like my next door neighbor

those poor ...
By: cinloykko. on 26 Nov 07, 05:15:13
those poor meatball-less winners... i weep for them! me on the other hand, i would have given EVERYONE an invisible muted talking pencil!

HE FLIEES!! OOH!! ...
By: 0sukilia0. on 23 Nov 07, 02:00:27
HE FLIEES!! OOH!! HE FLIEES!!

An excellent winner ...
By: ayolark. on 30 Sep 07, 20:20:47
An excellent winner...love that song so much... "On a hill above the galaxy on the dark side of the sun"...love that part....

i believe in the ...
By: tiatanbwl. on 29 Sep 07, 01:05:20
i believe in the floating suicidal tangerine where is that video???

lm fao i love the ...
By: ragamuffinpie. on 11 Sep 07, 01:46:54
lm fao i love the winnr that ones my second fav i like the one was the one by mysteriusinternaut or however u spell it. haha it was good.

a thousand trillon ...
By: wookawokkadoodooyeah. on 05 Sep 07, 20:56:08
a thousand trillon years before the time of men began,in the dawning of the universe in an invisible land, lived the most beautiful unicorn than no one ever saw, with the power roughly equal to a couple hundred sharks SHE RIDES, OH SHE RIDES in the age before a hundred years, before the age began, lived a bieng with a power ofver every mortal man in the sky above a mountain and a miget and a tree, high above a beer volcano and a stripper factory HE FLIES OF HE FLIES

RAmen
By: MirokuKazekage. on 14 Aug 07, 16:17:01
RAmen

Now -this- is the ...
By: 966th. on 31 Jul 07, 09:54:43
Now -this- is the Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny, no doubt about it. Chuck Norris has nothing on the Invisible Pink Unicorn. Nuh-uh-uh. BD

Yes, you're quite ...
By: gordonliv. on 17 Jul 07, 10:29:19
Yes, you're quite right. Holy are the FSM and the IPU. I repent of my sin of doubt. I have seen the light. Also I don't want to get tangled up in strands of spaghetti or trampled by horse hooves. You might even get me to eat a bacon sandwich!

ATHEISM?!? You do ...
By: imrational. on 17 Jul 07, 04:37:59
ATHEISM?!? You do realize that this involved a battle between GODS, right?

I'm disgusted. ...
By: gordonliv. on 17 Jul 07, 00:00:32
I'm disgusted. Absolutely disgusted. The first prize contains meatballs. I'm vegetarian. How are we supposed to advance the cause of atheism with such scant regard for vegetarians? Honestly, you guys. If I were awarding first prize it would be a can of spaghetti with some soya protein or something like that. I'll pray for you.

Well you have my ...
By: JanisChambers. on 05 Jul 07, 15:13:19
Well you have my vote. I would love to see this in the Heavy Metal animation style.

Young Earth Creationism, what happens next?
Posted by: imrational

Video duration: 164 seconds

If Creationism is ever brought into public school science programs... what would happen next?

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:-P
By: prahanormal. on 20 Nov 08, 11:26:33
:-P

lol, yeah. I'm ...
By: imrational. on 20 Nov 08, 05:22:01
lol, yeah. I'm using an old Mac G4 Powerbook with iMovie 4. The chromakey function was a freeware addition I got. So, i'm not exactly using top of the line stuff.

Really bad chroma ...
By: prahanormal. on 20 Nov 08, 05:07:46
Really bad chroma keying right there, but you have some really good points.

Way to go, I've ...
By: samthornton. on 17 Nov 08, 02:01:35
Way to go, I've thought of the same chain-effect before but not to such detail. These are my favorite videos of yours, explaining the illogicality of religious beliefs being in Biology. Keep up the great work.

My friend Kyle used ...
By: IntractableMonkey. on 14 Nov 08, 22:34:46
My friend Kyle used the same argument... A baby seal had been proven to be many of hundreds of years old. Though, of course, he wouldn't tell me where he got that information.

bmansoccer24, Did ...
By: imrational. on 11 Nov 08, 16:27:22
bmansoccer24, Did you ever read up on the explanations for why there have been a small number discrepencies for carbon dating? There are completely rational explanations for those things. Also, there are other forms of dating than radiometric. Those methods act as a way for double-checking. Do you understand how science works? It works by falsifying theories... by being skeptical. So, of course almost all the things we have taught as science have been proven false!"

sorry but your an ...
By: bmansoccer24. on 11 Nov 08, 15:00:20
sorry but your an idiot!! Do you know that carbon dating has proven that a living penguin is millions of years old? The fact is almost all the things we teach today as science or fact have not been proven and in some cases have been proven false.

Draw a line please: ...
By: wimscheers. on 11 Nov 08, 07:42:48
Draw a line please: Labrador, Golden Retriever, Great Dane, Chihuahua, Husky, Wolf, Jackal, Dingo, Coyote, Fox, Raccoon dog, Raccoon, Ring-tailed Cat, Cacomistle, ...

Bresh, I was just ...
By: Bagodonuts15. on 07 Nov 08, 07:18:35
Bresh, I was just answering it as literally as possible. More than one implies offspring that lived does it not? Well, for your new question, I would say that simply looking at each individual fossil doesnt prove that they didnt just go extinct. You have to take all of the fossils as a whole where we can see what are called transitional fossils. Also, if you look at the genetic similarity between humans and chimps, it implies either a god who is out to trick us, or common descent.

You didnt answer ...
By: BreshiBaraElohim. on 07 Nov 08, 06:55:05
You didnt answer the question really, now did you? More than one fossil of the same species does not prove that any of those fossils produced offspring that lived. They could simply have all died out, extinct. Extinct does not automatically lead to evolution. That is a non sequitur argument.

Breshi, I actually ...
By: Bagodonuts15. on 07 Nov 08, 06:22:46
Breshi, I actually don't think you see why Im frustrated with you. That is the problem. Its not that you are stumping me in any way, its that you really think you are. As for how I know if any of them had children that lived, I would simply point to the existence of more than one fossil of the same species. Scientists have found multiple homo habilis, homo erectus, homo (well alot of them). The same goes for prehistoric versions of many many other animals. Any follow up questions?

trust me I know ...
By: Bagodonuts15. on 07 Nov 08, 06:06:05
trust me I know what your saying. I was really just trying to convince myself to stop talking to him. Ive had so many arguments with him that go no where I dont see why I bother. So if I stop it wont be on your account, no worries. it will be for my sanity. But hes good at pushing me into talking so we'll see. Like he just told me hes winning the debate. Thats killing me inside. ahhh. Thanks for the videos

Bagodonuts15, Oh, ...
By: imrational. on 07 Nov 08, 05:28:32
Bagodonuts15, Oh, don't stop on my account. I don't mind people posting on my vids as long as it's not spam, revealing private info, etc. I just got done from a series of PM with him though and thought that I should warn you. He's got to be intentionally trolling... I can't imagine anyone who would be that ignorant and still be able to use a computer.

I simply asked you ...
By: BreshiBaraElohim. on 07 Nov 08, 05:20:52
I simply asked you a straight forward question. I do not deny that there are fossils, I just asked how you know that even one of them produced any children that lived. It would be pretty hard to convince someone that those bones produced offspring that did things animals today dont do (turn into other animals), when you cant even prove that those bones produced offspring that lived. I see why you are frustrated with me now, and shifting towards ad hominem. I am winning this debate.

ok fine, what ...
By: Bagodonuts15. on 07 Nov 08, 05:08:29
ok fine, what aspect of evolution are you talking about. I don't have any "best evidence." it is all of the evidence put together and how they all compliment each other that makes evolution so compelling. You just completely disregard the fossil records so I dont see how you will accept anything I have to say (you're extremely biased). Also, I thought I made it very clear that no question is very simple when the person asking is you.

I see you ...
By: BreshiBaraElohim. on 07 Nov 08, 04:36:25
I see you completely dodged the very simple question. I believe this shows just how poor your "best evidence" is.

Breshi, Of course ...
By: Bagodonuts15. on 06 Nov 08, 21:36:37
Breshi, Of course every evolutionist says the fossil record. To most people it is very compelling. If this answer is not sufficient, I don't agree that you asked "one simple question." Convincing you of anything is never simple. But of course not proven is the same thing as no proof right? That only took about 10 posts to convince you otherwise. I give up Breshi, if you have a serious logical thing to say let me know. Otherwise, dont bother because I wont

Imr, lol, good ...
By: Bagodonuts15. on 06 Nov 08, 21:23:49
Imr, lol, good point. I just have a hard time accepting that someone could be that ignorant. I should have given up a long time ago well before the "proof proven debacle." Sorry if Ive given him more reason to post on your videos. I just cant help it.

Breshi, Do you ...
By: imrational. on 06 Nov 08, 13:36:57
Breshi, Do you even understand logical fallacies? How am I making an argument from ignorance? If I was saying that God doesn't exist because you can't prove he does, THEN I would be arguing from ignorance. I am saying that a god COULD exist... I just lack a personal belief in a god or gods because of a lack of a testable theory and supporting evidence. Geez! I can't believe you are drawing me into the same repetitive arguments. Look, grab someone who knows logical fallacies and ask them.

LOL Arguing from ...
By: BreshiBaraElohim. on 06 Nov 08, 07:13:20
LOL Arguing from ignorance again? So much for your claims of being a skeptic.

Bagodonuts15, " ...
By: imrational. on 06 Nov 08, 06:34:44
Bagodonuts15, "Breshi, could you show me your best evidence for a creator? I promise to be open minded" TRUST ME, you don't want to go there. It's worse than the whole "proof and proven" debacle. He went on for tons of PMs not even understanding that most atheists merely lack believe and do not actively say that a god does not exist. He's too interested in spouting his opinion and ignores anything that might contradict him.

Ahh, the first ...
By: BreshiBaraElohim. on 06 Nov 08, 05:47:29
Ahh, the first answer every evolutionists says, the "fossil record." I ask one simple question. I hope you can give it a moments serious thought. How do you know that even one of those fossils ever produced any children that lived?

lol, what college ...
By: Bagodonuts15. on 06 Nov 08, 04:38:19
lol, what college was it? Did I finally get you that proof and proven are two different things/ Because if I did that is a major success. Honestly you are the most defensive person I have ever talked to. You and I both know that my best evidence wont be good enough (for you). For others, Its been said so often but just look at the fossil records and any biology textbook. Oh yeah, Breshi, could you show me your best evidence for a creator? I promise to be open minded

"We have plenty of ...
By: BreshiBaraElohim. on 06 Nov 08, 01:25:02
"We have plenty of evidence that compels the mind to accept evolution" It depends on your definition of evolution as stated numerous times already. But as far as macro-evolution, or the General Theory of evolution, as a secularly educated university graduate, a lover of science and truth, and from a strictly scientific viewpoint based entirely on the evidence alone, and all biases aside, I completely disagree with your assertion here. All rhetoric aside, could show us your best evidence?

Breshi, proof and ...
By: Bagodonuts15. on 05 Nov 08, 21:40:31
Breshi, proof and proven are different things. We have two different definitions of proof here. Maybe Im wrong but I see proof as "the evidence or argument that compels the mind to accept an assertion as true."(actual definition of proof). We have plenty of evidence that compels the mind to accept evolution but unless we search aboslutely everything in the universe it cant be proven. Proven implies absolute certainty which no one is claiming. The flying spagghetti monster is still a possibility

Response to thevinerhyme
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Video duration: 243 seconds

Thanks for responding to my video... here's my reply.

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The beating of your ...
By: Faustulus777. on 16 Nov 08, 02:48:44
The beating of your heart, the blinking of your eyes, can't be good or bad; they are involuntary. Capisce? If not, what does that mean? That I don't make sense because you're dense? or uneducated, or mentally challenged, or whatever? Read books, I guess. Maybe a tutor... I dunno, friend.

If it doesn't, let ...
By: Faustulus777. on 16 Nov 08, 02:48:24
If it doesn't, let help you understand. If yo have no choice in what you do, i.e. you must do it, than no one can hold you accountable for what you do, for YOU MUST DO IT, you have no choice, it is a law of cause and effect. Only choices can have moral character, i.e., be either good or bad.

What kind of logic ...
By: Faustulus777. on 16 Nov 08, 02:44:38
What kind of logic is it? I won't strive long with you, I'll say it once, then you can go on believing what you want. If someone says x is unjust, x must exist to be unjust, right?! How can what does not exist be unjust? Duh. Nothing I said makes sense to you? Neither does it make sense to a 3 year old, but that's your problem. Nothing Einstein says makes sense ot me, so what? I siad this, "if there is no free will you are under no moral obligation" Doesn't that make sense to you?

What kind of logic ...
By: Klien556. on 16 Nov 08, 01:13:54
What kind of logic is "since you already know he is being unjust to you:he must exist to be unjust"? That's just ridiculous... And it seems to me that your comments here are far more biased than anything imrational has said in his video or commented. To me he seems to just question religion instead of following blindly and put his opinion out there. I don't mind you believing in God, but in no way is imrational FORCING people into atheism. And so far, NONE of your comments make any sense to me.

well isnt downs a ...
By: gotbannedbefore. on 15 Nov 08, 18:49:31
well isnt downs a natural selection as we humans are not really going to adapt as we can control heating so we dont need a coat of fur, we can adjust sound so no "super ears" so cant really be evoloutionary as we have nothing to evolve to

Brown: oh so if ...
By: JediSauraus. on 14 Nov 08, 21:38:48
Brown: oh so if something is in both OT and NT we can cherry pick what we find morally acceptable? Downs: your right it is detrimental. how many down's do you see with multiple offspring transmitting those genes to the future generation. Down's arises de novo every time mostly because of maternal age Anemia is caused by iron deficiency (diet) but look up the frequency of heterozygote carriers for sickle cell anemia in africa where it protects (partially) against malaria thats evolution @work

adolfhitler, ...
By: imrational. on 08 Nov 08, 16:00:55
adolfhitler, Carrying your logic further, then it should be "sinful" to be near radioactive elements. Why would the bible omit such a thing?

Mutations from " ...
By: adolthitler. on 08 Nov 08, 14:06:26
Mutations from "sinning" is not quite so crazy. Drug and alchohol use in pregnancy can increase the chance of mutations.

discuss with ...
By: junmengo. on 07 Nov 08, 05:57:00
discuss with someone who dosent belieave in the simple is bacis facts of life, like evolution its a pure waste of time

That whole "blaming ...
By: GammaCorps. on 29 Oct 08, 18:15:01
That whole "blaming the victim" thing you mentioned is the reason I don't trust the God of the Bible, which I have talked to many other people about. I don't know if he exists or not but I won't worship him.

most mutations are ...
By: JediSauraus. on 28 Oct 08, 06:14:38
most mutations are either harmful or don't do anything. It's a lottery if you play often enough you will by chance get a beneficial one. this is where natural selecion comes in. If your better at surviving you have more time an resources for reproduction. the beneficial trait becomes higher in frequency with time. you can observe this in the lab because you can grow a billion bacteria on a petri dish and they have generation times of 20 minutes in optimal conditions

brown55061, ...
By: imrational. on 25 Oct 08, 16:03:26
brown55061, Actually, both evolution and natural selection both predict that there will be mutations harmful to survival, therefore DS is still supportive evidence. However, I understand what you are saying. I suggest you google up "german superboy mutation".

The NT Bible ...
By: brown55061. on 25 Oct 08, 12:26:35
The NT Bible teaches against inherited sin so we can throw that concept out. I agree a lot with your points based on environment but the thing you are missing here is evolution in a humans case would mean a person mutated to their environment to help it survive. Downs can never be a positive for the species. And the cases for this anemia should only happen in those environments where its helpful but that happens everywhere. These mutations aren't happening to help survival.

sweetwater1115, ...
By: imrational. on 20 Oct 08, 00:18:38
sweetwater1115, Some mutations are detrimental, most are inconsequential, and some are actively beneficial.

I was under the ...
By: sweetwater1115. on 19 Oct 08, 22:58:45
I was under the impression that genetic mutations were always detrimental. but i guess that's why i'm not a scientist.

Teslacoil12, That ...
By: imrational. on 18 Oct 08, 21:09:45
Teslacoil12, That is incorrect. There are tons of mutations in each and every generation. Let's say fuzzywinkers are caught in a flood. Some fuzzywinkers have a mutation making them fatter than others. Normally, it doesn't affect anything... but when swimming in the water, the added fat lets them float better, while the other winkers sink and drown. The fat fuzzywinkers finished first! (i.e. natural selection chooses from what's already there).

why would your ...
By: Teslacoil12. on 18 Oct 08, 17:17:07
why would your offspring even be developed with downs if there's nothing threatning out there? bacteria only develop resistence when they are exposed to something.

Also, for the ...
By: imrational. on 13 Oct 08, 21:11:38
Also, for the e.coli example, I thought it was a mutation where info was added.

DredPiratWestey, ...
By: imrational. on 13 Oct 08, 21:10:38
DredPiratWestey, Sorry, but what evidence do you have that he is more prone to heart ailments? His mother has one copy of the gene and is a world-class athlete. Also, if the heart ailment thing is true, as long as he reaches past reproductive age without them taking effect, then it would still be considered beneficial for natural selection.

I figured someone ...
By: DredPiratWestley. on 13 Oct 08, 21:06:44
I figured someone would go the route of E.Coli. However, that example (and numerous other about E.Coli) do not increase information. In most cases (including the citrc acid case) it's more accurate to say that info has been adversely altered or even reduced! As for the boy in Germany, that IS an interesting case, isn't it? However, it is not 'purely beneficial', as I stated in the question. He is, for example, more prone to heart ailments (as well as a list of others) than usual.

Yup. E.Coli having ...
By: imrational. on 13 Oct 08, 19:32:06
Yup. E.Coli having spontaneous mutation and becoming able to digest Citric Acid. German boy has two mutant genes and has massive muscle buildup... turning him into a "superboy". Bacteria gaining ability to digest nylon.

There are many ...
By: DredPiratWestley. on 13 Oct 08, 15:40:43
There are many examples out there? Hmm... Ok, let's amend the creationist's original question. This amendment, I'm sure you'll agree, is for the sake of supporting Evolution's stance that these mutations cause species to become stronger, faster, better, etc. So, the question: Can you give an example of a genetic mutation or evolutionary process that can be seen to increase the information in the genome, and be purely beneficial to a species? Can anyone even give ONE?!

imrational ...
By: conradbate. on 05 Oct 08, 18:10:10
imrational personally I thought "they are so crappy they can't even accidentally die to antibiotics any more" was a great way of putting it :-P It's only a way of phrasing :-) also, i'm not a creationist.

conradbate, MRSA ...
By: imrational. on 05 Oct 08, 16:11:02
conradbate, MRSA strains NOT from the hospital have been found. They are thriving in a natural environment. If your hypothesis of evolution degrades an organism was true, then we wouldn't be seeing this. Also, how would you explain the diversity of life since Noah's Ark? That would require a faster rate of evolution than biologists would say happens. How come all the animals aren't decrepit mutants with melting features?

conradbate, "they ...
By: imrational. on 05 Oct 08, 16:07:17
conradbate, "they are so crappy they can't even accidentally die to antibiotics anymore" This makes sense how? Dying is a desired trait? My point is that if "superbugs" were handicapped from adaptation then we wouldn't be seeing them spreading in the wild where they are constantly exposed to a changing and complex environment. In other words, your premise that evolution makes species less viable is wrong.

on Abortion
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There have been SEVERAL studies that have linked a high crime rate to women having unwanted children.
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By: SurfAngel1623. on 10 Oct 08, 06:51:53
I agree.

SurfAngel1623, I ...
By: imrational. on 10 Oct 08, 06:42:30
SurfAngel1623, I pretty much agree with your stance, but I would never want to pass laws restricting abortion. I think we should push for responsible sex/birth control and encourage adoption avenues.

I feel abortion ...
By: SurfAngel1623. on 10 Oct 08, 06:01:00
I feel abortion should be legal for healthy and safety reasons. I feel though if you don't want a baby though you should give the baby up for adoption. There are tons of people on waiting lists for years to adopt a child. I am not pro-choice or pro-life. I am pro-responsibility

Personally, I want ...
By: imrational. on 04 Oct 08, 17:39:52
Personally, I want kids... so I wouldn't want a girl to abort my child (although if it were majorly handicapped or would put the woman's life at risk is a different story). However, I would never dream of mandating what a woman does with her body.

You have to admit ...
By: darkforce333. on 04 Oct 08, 16:43:21
You have to admit abortion is kind of cold. Would you have no problem being an abortionist doctor? I'm just saying it's a lot easier to kill when you don't see it happen or the person you kill isn't intellegent enough to know something is being cruel.

darkforce333, The ...
By: imrational. on 04 Oct 08, 08:26:09
darkforce333, The only cases I've heard of people who were diagnosed with brain death and later lived had absolutely no documentation that of the "brain death". Brain waves may start early. I've read conflicting accounts and think that there needs to be better research into this.

There are ...
By: darkforce333. on 04 Oct 08, 02:57:17
There are documented medical accounts of people who have come out of total brain failure after hours of having no brain waves. But that's besides the point. Anyways don't brain waves start pretty early on in the baby? I guess if you reduce human kind to just tissue that isn't much different than your view. Considering your an atheist I wouldn't blame you for thinking that way.

darkforce333- ...
By: starfishsicko. on 03 Oct 08, 19:19:03
darkforce333-Basically I was mocking his notion that the egg is somehow more alive after merging with a sperm. Because, the way I figure it: whether it's a clump of cells, or a single cell, if there are no brainwaves, it is not human. Basically I'm saying-if you're gonna defend one form of potential life, you should defend it all.

starfishsicko ...
By: imrational. on 03 Oct 08, 17:25:58
starfishsicko Depends on your statement. Are you responding to me or to darkforce333?

Life does start at ...
By: imrational. on 03 Oct 08, 17:25:19
Life does start at conception. I wasn't that it wasn't. Your skin cells are "life". I was saying that when brainwaves occur is when a person becomes "human". The hardcore, ultimate determination of medical "death" for a human being is the ending of brain function. Wouldn't it make sense to therefore go to the opposite? When brain waves start to function marking when a clump of cells become human?

Technically, it ...
By: starfishsicko. on 03 Oct 08, 15:52:03
Technically, it starts with sperm an egg production.

"Your argument "who ...
By: darkforce333. on 03 Oct 08, 15:20:01
"Your argument "who knows what geniuses were aborted" is a poor one" That's why i said putting that asside. Ok it was dumb to even mention, but is that all you can criticize me for? "Personally, I think we should define it as when brainwaves occur." But it's still very arbitrary. I don't want to commit the fallacy of the beard, but life and death seems to be a very black and white issue. Somehow with abortion we can fuzz it all. Technically life starts at conception.

Your argument "who ...
By: imrational. on 03 Oct 08, 15:13:22
Your argument "who knows what geniuses were aborted" is a poor one. We also do not know how which Hitlers or Stalins were aborted either. The whole abortion issue rests on where an embryo becomes "human". Personally, I think we should define it as when brainwaves occur (if that is possible to determine). A timeline had been set on that previously, but has been called into question.

You were presenting ...
By: darkforce333. on 03 Oct 08, 15:08:00
You were presenting information in a way of an argument. You perpusefully gave the good points of allowing abortion and totally ignored the main reason people object to it. Unless you want to compare the unborn babies life to the mother's life and societies well being you are not dealing with the issue properly. Nobody who believes abortion is murder should see any persuasive power in your argument. On the other hand if it isn't murdering a baby, there is good reason for abortion.

darkforce333, Nope. ...
By: imrational. on 03 Oct 08, 14:55:43
darkforce333, Nope. It is not necessarily my rule of ethics. I was presenting information to encourage rational debate.

So basicallly ...
By: darkforce333. on 03 Oct 08, 09:31:16
So basicallly pragmitism rules over the life of the child? So basically killing human beings isn't wrong if it is done in a way to have greater humanity for everybody else? This is the kind of logic I saw from your video. Is this your rule of ethics? You know regardless of the morality; look how good it is for the rest of us if the baby dies. Putting aside who knows what geniuses were aborted, the strength of your argument is contingent on whether an abortion is the killing of a baby.

Coffee Stock? I'll ...
By: RoyalKnightVI. on 01 Oct 08, 00:52:10
Coffee Stock? I'll take that in mind!!! Maybe if we had the abortion and let the gays have adopt some kids, life will improve... somewhat? Still crime will never truly be stopped... oh well

yay I would love a ...
By: RoyalKnightVI. on 01 Oct 08, 00:42:09
yay I would love a Bible movie, would be a great NC-17 movie!!!

of course,i ...
By: lanananans. on 27 Sep 08, 10:42:04
of course,i remember classes we had about contraception in elementry school and great lections in highschool.thats the way it should be.

also what if you ...
By: idontsignin. on 17 Sep 08, 13:00:27
also what if you knew that your child was going to be born with a terminal illness, would you still keep that child to suffer when it is born.

if we did not have ...
By: idontsignin. on 17 Sep 08, 12:58:37
if we did not have abortion then the world would be even more overpopulated as it is. even in britain where i live there are about 60 million people(alot) and have you seen the size of this country, it's not very big.

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imrational is ...
By: jotunobsidianeyes. on 12 Aug 08, 17:39:11
imrational is correct. The Israelites in the old testament exterminated people to take their land in true ethnic cleansing fashion. Also lets not forget the mass murder by Jehovah himself of Egyptians and others like in the great flood.

Bailout?!?
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This video isn't up to my usual standards, but this whole Bailout thing really has pissed me off.

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To add to your ...
By: TILLEYJS. on 06 Oct 08, 07:48:01
To add to your point....If we can still feed ourselves. Then I think we can do without the SUV and 1,000 extra square foot of house. I agree with you 100%

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By: EpifanesEuergetes. on 06 Oct 08, 00:23:58
Great to see videos by you after such a long recess. I hope you are back for good.

Not too sure about ...
By: cookeladoo. on 02 Oct 08, 07:24:11
Not too sure about the Economist, but mainstream media are all listed on the stock exchanges, so I do not believe that the mainstream media will give a true picture and will do whatever the can to have the bailout. if not, they are all bound to lose lots of money when the markets drop. I have seen loads of media pushing for bailout while most others seem to say NO.....interesting how US democracy works

Very interesting ...
By: creationismisstupid. on 01 Oct 08, 19:11:09
Very interesting video, in the BENELUX, BElgium, NEtherlands, LUXemburg, the governments have more or less renationalised our largest bank and the heads of those responsible for the crisis, as a result of there dealings with Lehman bros, are now rolling. Some are probably losing their fat severence payments and can expect to be answerable for civil damages.

k03, Hey, long time ...
By: imrational. on 01 Oct 08, 17:46:02
k03, Hey, long time no see! :) I think that even losing $8000 would be more beneficial in the long term. We are looking at shaking up the status quo... allowing new entrepreneurs to step up. We would be sending the message that people and businesses who make bad financial decisions will not be bailed out by the government. America can weather this storm. If we continue the precedent (remember S&L Scandal) of the government bailing out then we might not weather the next one.

Hey imrational, ...
By: k03. on 01 Oct 08, 17:37:01
Hey imrational, been a while. Just wanted to point out the consequentialist argument here. The 3000$ price tag must be compared with the alternative. The Economist (most serious source I can think of, and libertarian leaning) predicts americans to lose 8,000$ on average if the bailout does not pass, through the crisis that will follow. I agree with your idea of responsibility, but in this situation I am not sure whether justice is worth its consequences.

That money is going ...
By: mconn2112. on 01 Oct 08, 16:24:22
That money is going predominantly, if not completely, to foreign investors.

oh boy... ...
By: cinloykko. on 01 Oct 08, 07:48:06
oh boy... everything's (been) going done the drain. you forgot to subtract the people who are retired or is disabled so the number for how much each person needs to shell out for this (possible) bailout is hiked WAYYYY higher than accounted for. would announcing bankruptcy be a tad better?

what a ...
By: musicisthegateway. on 01 Oct 08, 05:49:42
what a computational comment.

Should I let you go ...
By: vranar. on 01 Oct 08, 03:36:59
Should I let you go on, you will ruin fifty thousand families, and that would be my sin! You are a den of vipers and thieves." -Andrew Jackson BTW way less than way less than 228mm people pay income tax. I'm a soon to be CPA who has worked as a tax preparer and I've seen lots of people have a income tax burden of negative several thousand through the earned income credit. A family of 4 can make upwards of 100k and pay no tax through deductions and credits.

"Gentlemen, I have ...
By: vranar. on 01 Oct 08, 03:34:32
"Gentlemen, I have had men watching you for a long time and I am convinced that you have used the funds of the bank to speculate in the breadstuffs of the country. When you won, you divided the profits amongst you, and when you lost, you charged it to the bank. You tell me that if I take the deposits from the bank and annul its charter, I shall ruin ten thousand families. That may be true, gentlemen, but that is your sin!

Very well done! ...
By: cnhatton. on 01 Oct 08, 03:06:47
Very well done! Why should people be bailed out for their greed and poor decisions? Live within your means. The worst is yet to come... consumer debt is approaching such bloated levels that most can never hope to pay it all off in their lifetimes. Who's going to be left holding the hot potato at the end of it all?

Nice video. In no ...
By: InReasonWeTrust. on 01 Oct 08, 01:04:45
Nice video. In no way does everyone over 18 pay taxes; as a professional, you need to pay even more imrational! Like you, I decided to not buy a house either. Now I need to help out the foolish who didn't listen to me when I told them they were making a mistake and bigass business who have lots more in the bank and homes, unlike me. I am pissed off big time by politicians, wall street, CEOs and my next door neighbors! The American Dream has become the expectation of being bailed out!

Great Vid as always ...
By: KameWaOni. on 01 Oct 08, 00:45:06
Great Vid as always 5/5

Last comment was ...
By: geekifier13. on 01 Oct 08, 00:39:34
Last comment was directed at sifakaboy's 60%.

If that's true, ...
By: geekifier13. on 01 Oct 08, 00:39:03
If that's true, then according to the calculator on my phone, each taxpayer will pay about $5095.26. Ouch.

America - Land of ...
By: dackjaniels555. on 01 Oct 08, 00:19:00
America - Land of the slaves.

not that it matters ...
By: sifakaboy. on 30 Sep 08, 22:59:21
not that it matters much...but, in your equation you may want to adjust it to reflect the fact that only about 60% adults pay tax (due to low income).

In my opinion - ...
By: vampchika. on 30 Sep 08, 22:23:02
In my opinion - Yeah, the media is blowing everything out of porportion, shit if you watch fox news for one afternoon i'm surprised more people dont blow there brains out. i'm a single mom and can't even afford to get my own house let own im just barely making my rent every month, i'm still using what i got back in taxes last year, if they take that away to give it to some money grubing real estate junkie, my ass is moving to norway (wasn't that at the top of list for places to live?) ::nods::

[It has been ...
By: berrypievision. on 30 Sep 08, 22:22:26
[It has been obvious for awhile that America is losing its #1 status. I] Well, duh. Our superpower status is finished. I dont really mind that beyond that I dont want to live here if everything is crashing. [I had professors talking about the EU passing the US over 16 years ago.] I was actually commenting on just the bad economy. I guess a better example is the Canadian dollar is ahead of ours. [ If there is a collapse, we can weather it.] Maybe, but well come out incredibly weak.

OUCH if this bill ...
By: JamieWayneRothery. on 30 Sep 08, 21:52:21
OUCH if this bill gets though the us government can be hopeing Americans cant do math that big I cant

8journey8: i just ...
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8journey8: i just tested it again, it works. go to a video on youtube, and then replace the last section of the URL with ``watch?v=lsC2k9opOP0´´ but you can also click my username... i re-uploaded the video on my own channel ;)

search for a video ...
By: MariborchanX. on 30 Sep 08, 21:05:10
search for a video titled "The Shock Doctrine by Alfonso Cuarón and Naomi Klein"

I haven't seen a ...
By: Bleatmop. on 30 Sep 08, 21:01:13
I haven't seen a decent, in good repair house under the price of $250k around where I live for some time, unless decent is defined as a 1 room hovel with a hole in. I'm definitely glad you can afford a nice home at a (semi)reasonable price.

It would be a ...
By: DillonX. on 30 Sep 08, 20:28:23
It would be a better deal for the economy if they just gave $3,000 to each American. That'd be a bigger stimulant. Of course we'd still have to pay the $3,000 back. But it'd be better than transferring $700 BILLON to the top 5%.

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